Sunday, July 20, 2008

A Quick Word on The Dark Knight


If you were to tell me that a film that explores the principles behind things like the Milgram experiment would be skillfully represented in a Batman film, I would have called you nuts. It can't work. What does one have to do with the other?

Quite a bit. The Dark Knight was a relentless, DISTURBING, bleak and very adult look into the underbelly of human behavior.

Would you kill someone to prevent a hospital caring for a critically ill loved one from getting blown up?

2 people you care about are about to die. Who do you save?

Would you reveal a dark secret that could ruin your life to prevent others from getting killed? What if this secret could help more people in the long run? Do you sacrifice those few?

How far can a good man be pushed before he can't tell right from wrong? How far can ordinary people be pushed when faced with impossible choices?

You have your car chases, explosions and fist fights. In a summer blockbuster, that's usually where the money is. But not here. The money is in these types of issues I laid out for you above. They are handled with intelligence, a rare thing to see in a film like this. You can even have a debate on ethics if you see it with a group of friends. Take this element away and the film STILL stands on it's own merits as a superbly crafted crime drama about city politicians, mobsters and cops succumbing to greed, fame and self advancement. The film loves to play in the gray areas and never leaves.

This is NOT a family film or a film for younger kids. This is almost like an R Rated film that slipped in under the radar as a PG-13 film because they kept the swearing to a minimum. This is a good thing. The film treats it's viewers like adults and the emotional tax paid by some viewers in the theater was palpable. This will leave many drained, haunted and rattled.

As for Heath Ledger as the Joker, creepy, real, logical yet insane. He nails it. Does he deserve an Oscar? Yes! Even if he were alive today, I'd say the same. It's not a sympathy thing, he gets it on merit.

Heath, thank you for this performance.

Here's the first 6 minutes of the film to give you a feel for it. Nothing is given away so enjoy.

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People in the Sun said...

Man, it looks really good. Haven't seen a movie in just about 7 months now. If I only I could teach my doggies to babysit.

Urban Thought said...

I'm so happy ot hear you say that about Heath's performance. I know a lot of folk were praising him. I wasn't sure of their reasoning. But you being he movie guy that I know you to be your opinion matters.

I have to wait for the hype to die down, probably in a month or so.

SJ said...

I will be seeing it this weekend or kill a loved one trying to.

nursemyra said...

you've just persuaded me

Enemy of the Republic said...

Gosh, I want to see it! I love creepy villians. As for Heath, he should have won in B. Cowboy--I don't know who did win, but it wasn't Daniel Day Lewis, so I know I was conflict free!


Heath would have become one of the greatest actors of all time, like DD Lewis. Do you remember The Patriot? More of the critics talked about his performance than Mel's and I believe that was his first big American film.

I know a lot of people are curious because he died, but I think the movie would have done this well anyway. And I'm sure Jack N is fuming!

Ricardo said...

People- See this movie in the theater at all costs!! You will NNOT forget it.

Urban - Believe the hype when it comes to this film. Heath plays the Joker so well that you're creeped out and would NEVER want to be alone in a room with him. Check out the part when he starts telling a cop who was more of a man based on their screams as he Killed mutilated them with his knife. Chilling.

SJ - It's so worth it.

Nurse not only do I think Heath should get a nod for an Oscar but I also think the film is Oscar worthy. It will stay in your head.

Ricardo said...

Enemy - Heath blows Jack out of the water. This is a very dark, grim film and every frame of it is dripping with corruption and sin. By the end, no one is sqeaky clean. Right down to the butler Alfred. We lost a huge talent with this guy.

marsha said...

I saw the movie on Saturday. I enjoyed it. I agree it's not for children.

marsha said...

I saw the movie on Saturday. I enjoyed it. I agree it's not for children.

SJ said...

Wow wow wow and wow.

Jill/Twipply Skwood said...

****I'LL**** babysit him People!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All you have to do is bring him to Houston & see the movie here. I promise not to drop him on his little head either! (SORRY!!!!! Was that totally out of bounds? It just begged to be said.)

Funny SJ!

Ricardo - Sounds like a good show! You know what the problem with a PG-13 rating that tends toward R is? Eight, Nine and ten year olds all over the country & even some six and seven year olds feel entitled to see the movie because they're almost 13, after all.

I think the whole rating system stinks though. At least for children's movies I think there should be a whole alternative rating system for subtle racism and gender bias (which is usually way less subtle).

I think if sex and violence are continued to be rated under the same umbrella, they should be weighted the opposite. Right now you can get away with a heck of a lot more violence than sex and still get a low rating. But that makes no sense to me.

I think most people expect their children to experience sex in their lifetime and yet we rate the movies against it much more harshly than we rate them against violence. And we hope against hope that our children do NOT experience a high rate of violence in their life, yet we expose them to it via movies at a very early age.

I'm not saying they shouldn't ever see it, but I think it's kind of ridiculous that we are so much more willing (as a country) to expose them to violence than to sex at an early age. I imagine I've ranted about this on your blog before but what the heck, you did name it "Unloaded". :-) :-) :-)

Maritza said...

I saw it last night. Not something I would normally go see but since I was the invitee and not the inviter, I went along.

I thought Heath was great and everyone else a silly character. I couldn't get past Batman being called "The Batman". When did that start?

I have a hard time believing that two handsome successful men would be madly in love with Maggie Gyllenhall (however you spell it). She isn't pretty and her acting was ripped from a page of a bad guest appearance on "Law & Order - Nice Girl During the Day, Tough as Nail DA at Night". Puh-leaze!

The movie was way too long and The Batman wore too much pink lipstick, same mistake made when Michael Keaton played him. I didn't like the garbled, gravelly voice as Batman or Mr. Bale's lisp when he's Bruce Wayne. And what's up with Michael Cain and the bad cockney accent? Was that supposed to be charming? Or was that a sly nod to his Austin Powers cameo? I think I'm giving him too much credit.

The city of Gotham looked like the city of Toronto - nothing special. I want a Gotham that is dark and vibrant, a city worth fighting for. Gotham looked like a prosperous Minneapolis.

I have to give them credit for keeping the product placement to a mimimum.

Oh and another cranky note, Morgan Freeman. Whenever we need the "wise, intelligent, benevolent" retired scientist/doctor/detective Morgan is on board. The man needs to shake it up a bit and do something different.

I wanted to love it as a good, escapist summer movie but it left me flat. It's almost 3 hours long, that's the emotional drain you felt from the audience. I felt fear that the movie would never end.

Ricardo said...

Marsha - It was a great flick and I' really glad I saw it.

SJ - Yes I said wow myself.

Jill - That is a HUGE problem with ratings. Show a little leg and it'a an R. Take off someone's head and gun down hundreds and PG-13 is just fine. What are we doing here? This is an american thing also. In Europe it's the other way around.

Yeah every 9 year old will want to see this. There will be lot's of squirming parents on this one. I might enjoy watching that. LOL!

Maritza -

"I thought Heath was great and everyone else a silly character."

I thought every character was pretty solid. Nothing silly from what I saw.

"I couldn't get past Batman being called "The Batman". When did that start?"

Not sure but I think people didn't know what to make of him so that was the name the media in Gotham called him.

"I have a hard time believing that two handsome successful men would be madly in love with Maggie Gyllenhall (however you spell it)"

The thought crossed my mind as well. Nothing against the actress.

"The movie was way too long and The Batman wore too much pink lipstick, same mistake made when Michael Keaton played him."

Um..I wasn't even looking so I didn't see a thing.

"And what's up with Michael Cain and the bad cockney accent? Was that supposed to be charming?"

I don't know about charming but I thought he performed very well.

"Or was that a sly nod to his Austin Powers cameo? I think I'm giving him too much credit."

Mr.Caine deserves plenty of credit. He's a remarkale actor and I'm glad he was on for this film.

"The city of Gotham looked like the city of Toronto - nothing special."

The film was shot in Chicago. they wanted to get away from sets and use a real city.

"I have to give them credit for keeping the product placement to a mimimum."

If there was any I sure didn't see it.


"Oh and another cranky note, Morgan Freeman. Whenever we need the "wise, intelligent, benevolent" retired scientist/doctor/detective Morgan is on board. The man needs to shake it up a bit and do something different."

Mr.Freeman does that kind of role very well. I was thrilled to see him in a Batman film. He gives any film he's in a boost. Should he do something new? Of course and I'm sure he will when the right moment comes up.


"I wanted to love it as a good, escapist summer movie but it left me flat. It's almost 3 hours long, that's the emotional drain you felt from the audience."

Wrong.

People in the Sun said...

Jill, don't you have a Dolly to babysit? Are you sick of news channels saying, "Hello Dolly"?

Tom Harper said...

Interesting review. Usually I just dismiss these blockbuster films; the bandwagon syndrome and all that. But this one sounds really good. I'll have to check it out.

Jill/Twipply Skwood said...

People - As a matter of fact, I think Dolly's throwing a little tantrum as we speak! I LOVE storms! Especially when they don't kill anybody and my car stays high and dry.

I imagine the news people are having fun saying "Hello Dolly!"! I haven't heard it, because I generally don't turn on the tv, much less the news unless there are major flood waters to watch.

Ricardo - Despite the fact that I just said above that I almost never watch TV, an actual brush with honest to goodness stalker behavior (I know I joke about stalking a lot, but this was NOT fun) had me hanging out at my aunt's house yesterday watching cable TV of all things. I saw these batman toys marketed to elementary age (so ten years and under) and DEFINITELY appealing to the preschool set (they were chunky and small). Parents are definitely going to have an uphill battle on this one.

Oooh Morgan Freeman...who the heck cares **what** he plays?!?! He's so *C*U*T*E*!!!!!! It's so unfair that men just get cuter and cuter as they age and women just end up looking old. Just wanted to throw in a little un-subtle gender bias. :-)

meleah rebeccah said...

Yeah, I wasn't going to take my son to see this movie. I thought it might be a little too much for him.

But, his father took him, and he's had nightmares ever since.

My Parents also saw this movie and said if there was ONE MOVIE to watch this year, its THIS ONE.

Ricardo said...

People - That Dolly hurricane gave me much undo stress at work. Every station was calling in to grab news footage of it. and yes, many said "Hello Dolly."

Tom I do as well as they are usually made for people with the attention span of a flea. I was blown away at how rich the subtext of this film was. It goes way beyond being a typical blockbuster or a Batman film. And it didn't have to to be entertaining but it did. Could this be the start of a trend in Hollywood? Nah. But this one's worth it.

Jill getting ready to remove her bra and panties for Mr.Freeman!! Get the Camera!

I wonder if those toys are for the Batman cartoon. If it's for the movie they are NUTS!! Play the viseo that has the first 6 minutes of the film. Tell me if that's for toddlers. LOL!

Meleah - I put the word disturbing all in caps because you're in for a shock if you think you're getting a Batman film like the older ones. Take everything you know about those and throw them out the window.

Your parents are correct. this could very well be the movie of the year. I put money on that. Well not too much because I never have any.

Leon said...

I'm not watching the video. I'm seeing it for myself. Can't wait!